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Topic: Is democracy an unnatural way of life?

Anonymous A started this discussion 3 months ago #68

I mean we've had kingdoms since our evolution. Even tribes had one leader. We respond to hierarchy.

Despite the above, democracy and republics have risen. Are they natural ways of life?

Should we revert to dictatorship and if so, how would it be beneficial?

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 10 minutes later#256

Democracy is no different than communism in that it sounds good ideologically on paper, but is much harder to carry out realistically and respectfully.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 47 minutes later, 58 minutes past creation#257

@previous

True that.

What do you propose as an alternative?

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours past creation#259

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I don't mean to turn this thread into a presidential debate, but Americans are currently trying to draw this line between fascism and nationalism. Especially in the wake of Trump.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 11 hours later, 14 hours past creation#261

Just want to point out that natural does not necessarily mean beneficial and unnatural does not necessarily mean not beneficial.
Most diseases are natural to the best of my knowledge and penicillin is unnatural.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 9 hours later, 1 day past creation#267

I've been trying to post my reply to this since yesterday, but it won't let me. So I put it in a pastebin:

http://fpaste.org/304926/14510724/

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 39 minutes later, 1 day past creation#269

@261

I never said it was, but rather, I asked if it was.

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How did you just post now if it's not letting you post?

Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day past creation#271

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> How did you just post now if it's not letting you post?

It's not letting me post the post I linked to. I can post other things, obviously.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 23 hours later, 2 days past creation#278

No, it is not, and it's indeed harmful. Humans NEED a leader. Plus, in a republic/democracy, politicians usually serve very short terms and that means they aren't able to execute long term projects. For example, suppose that the USA's next president is a Republican. That means the president will waste the first 12-24 months of his term destroying everything that the last president did, to only then implement his policies.
Also, he's basically obliged to benefit other republican politicians.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 11 minutes later, 2 days past creation#279

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Trump is the answer.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 5 hours later, 2 days past creation#282

@278

How is democracy harmful?

You state that humans NEED a leader, but you provide no support for that statement.

Many politicians in republics do not serve short terms, and quite a few that do continue in politics in other roles. So while they might serve "only" 8 years in the House, if they go on to serve 18 in the Senate, that certainly seems like a long time to pursue long-term projects. Most 20th and 21st century American presidents served a full two terms, except of course for FDR, who won 4 terms (though he died a few months into his 4th term).

It's impractical for a new president, of whatever party, to "waste the first 12-14 months of his term destroying everything that the last president did." It just doesn't happen. Obama largely continued Bush's policies, for example.

You've made a bunch of silly statements with absolutely no evidence or reasoning behind them. Disappointing.

Anonymous D replied with this 2 months ago, 11 hours later, 2 days past creation#286

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Anonymous D double-posted this 2 months ago, 1 day later, 4 days past creation#296

Someone once suggested to me an advantage of monarchy over representative democracy:
> [A monarch has their power thrust on them whereas a politician in a representative democracy has to choose to run for election.]

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 1 day later, 5 days past creation#300

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> Someone once suggested to me an advantage of monarchy over representative democracy:
> > [A monarch has their power thrust on them whereas a politician in a representative democracy has to choose to run for election.]

Whoever suggested that to you is an ignoramus with no historical awareness. The history of monarchies is a history of ambition, regicide, and civil war.

If you entertained this suggestion uncritically, you're an ignoramus, too.