> I don't know what homoeopathy is. I assume you mean homeopathy.
Different spelling, same thing
> If the objective is to make money by selling sugar pills to suckers, yes, homeopathy is extremely effective.
The objective is to cure people of their problems.
Also insults will get you nowhere here, use proper arguments please or risk getting kicked out.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour past creation#319
@315 > The objective is to cure people of their problems.
I'm not saying that's the objective of everyone who purports to practice homoeopathy, just that that's what it's supposed to do.
> > I don't know what homoeopathy is. I assume you mean homeopathy. > Different spelling, same thing
Fair enough.
> > If the objective is to make money by selling sugar pills to suckers, yes, homeopathy is extremely effective. > The objective is to cure people of their problems.
So if a person's problem is, say, poverty, or shyness, homeopathy purports to be able to cure them of that?
> Also insults will get you nowhere here, use proper arguments please or risk getting kicked out.
I didn't insult you, except perhaps indirectly, if you purchase homeopathic "remedies". Of course, I had no way to know you do that.
In addition, I was not making an argument. I was stating a fact. It is unacceptable among informed people with at least average intelligence to pretend that homeopathy is up for debate. It is quackery, and nothing but. More generally, the onus is not on me to attempt to prove a negative--that homeopathy does not work--it is, rather, on you to prove that it does.
You are welcome to present the results of well-designed, peer-reviewed double-blind placebo controlled studies that demonstrate the efficacy of homeopathic "remedies".
My evidence against it is that there are no proper studies that support it.
Naturally, it goes against common sense and it's counter intuitive, not that that's an argument, so it's not surprising that there's nothing to support it.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 5 days later, 6 days past creation#335
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You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. About 2 months ago I was ill with flu and took homeopathic medicine. After a week I felt better.
Homeopathic medicine absolutely does work, but it will not work on someone who has got it into their minds that it will not. There are plenty of scientific studies which prove this.
> someone who has got into their minds that it will not
Why the fuck should that matter? Normal medicine works regardless of what you think. Are you admitting it's a completely placebo effect? If not, what the fuck are you saying?
> > someone who has got into their minds that it will not > > Why the fuck should that matter? Normal medicine works regardless of what you think. Are you admitting it's a completely placebo effect? If not, what the fuck are you saying?
Firstly, try to calm down. You're all riled up at the moment and it's presumably affecting your ability to think clearly.
'Normal medicine' (sic) does not work regardless of what you think. The mind plays a very powerful role. You have absolutely zero understading of science and how it works.
Err, you said it yourself, moron. You acknowledged that homeopathic medicine made me better in 7 days. You said that not taking it would have made me better in 8 days. Ergo (look that word up) taking homeopathic medicine made me better faster than not taking it. Do you understand this? 8 is what we call a 'bigger number' than 7. Idiot. It's frightening there are clueless cretins like you walking around.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 4 hours later, 1 week past creation#353
Homeopathic dilutions do not contain even a single molecule of the original medicinal substance. How can a non-entity either cure or effect any changes in an organism.
Hahaha, you really are gullible! "Stephen Barrett, MD" is the author of that article. What he neglects to tell you (but which all of 10 seconds on Google reveals) is that he's on the board of directors of a certain company called Sanofi. Yep, the 4th biggest pharmaceutical company in the world!
What an easily-fooled moron you are, ready to believe anything the big pharma companies tell you. Keep reading their propaganda and sending them billions of dollars a year.
The burden is on you, not me, to prove that homeopathy doesn't work. The OP, and others, have stated it is bullshit, and yet so far nobody has provided a shred of evidence for why this is the case.
Right, so you agree that you don't have proof for it? I'm not saying I have proof against it and I won't call it bullshit, but don't claim you have any proof for it either.
I have posted proof in this very thread. I was ill with flu, took homeopathic medicine, and was better in 7 days. Even an ANTI-homeopathic medicine poster in this thread said that it would have taken me longer to recover without homeopathic medicine (his figure was 8 days, and he's AGAINST homeopathic medicine)!
Read the thread more carefully in future please. Oh, and thank-you for admitting you have no proof against homeopathic medicine. Happy to have beaten you so effortlessly.
> >. I was ill with flu, took homeopathic medicine, and was better in 7 days. > > Bullshit. With or without homo medicine you would be better in 7 days.
Wrong, genius. The average recovery time for flu is in fact 10 days:
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, you don't even have the most basic understanding of science, so it's no wonder you don't understand the science behind homeopathic medicine.
> The average recovery time for flu is in fact 10 days:
Total nonsense.
"The first symptoms of influenza (flu), including fever, chills, headache, and body aches, often begin to go away after about 2 or 4 days. In some cases, these symptoms will last 5 days or longer. The respiratory symptoms of influenza, such as coughing, throat irritation, and congestion may last for days or weeks."
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 22 minutes later, 2 weeks past creation#388
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Its ok with me if you want to spend your money on a silly pill. Immune systems can be boosted by the placebo effect.
People also believe in Voodoo. Others ask their priest for a blessing.
Me? Flue shot. Been years since I had the flu. Same for a common cold. Used to get them often. I added all kinds of vitamins, fresh fruits and veggies to my daily routine.
More expensive then your silly pill. Then again its been so many years since my last bout with Flu.
You ask for proof and your version of proof is based on one fucking case. Any respectable scientific study to constitute as evidence will have at least near 100 candidates. That, and the experiment will have been repeated multiple of times before it is taken as proof or conclusive. Fuck off and please stop wasting everyone's time unless you have real proof for it.
Try to calm down, you're allowing yourself to become upset.
To address your 'point', you just wasted your time explaining what the scientific method and yet STILL can provide no example of it to disprove the efficacy of homeopathic medicine.
Secondly, you are a moron. It does not, as you said, require a minimum of 100 examples to prove something. Once something has been proven to be true, there is no need to keep on proving it. I have proven in this thread that homeopathic medicine worked when I took it. Ergo, the issue has been settled. I won, and you have been made a mess of.
> You took a fucking placebo. You gave Anecdotal information. > What you did was Troll this board. > > How about posting how prayer gave you something you needed. Then more of us can laugh at your sorry stupid ass.
Firstly, why are you randomly capitalizing certain words? Are you one of those 'special' children we read about?
Secondly, I repeat - try to calm yourself. You're allowing yourself to be riled up. Please remember this is a discussion board, enough with the 'gay' jokes, and the 'fuck off from the board' comments, and the insults about having a stupid and sorry ass. If you can't be civil, go to another board.
Finally, I don't know how clearer I can make this for your imbecilic brain. I had flu. I took homeopathic medicine. I was well in 7 days. SCIENCE says that it would have taken an average of 11 days had I not taken it. There is your proof.
You didn't address that question to me, you addressed it to the OP of the thread. But if you're now asking me - homeopathic medicine can't "cure cancer". Who on earth says it can? No form of medicine can "cure cancer" if you're going to state it so generally, it can only cure certain kinds of cancer. So my basic answer to your (stupidly-stated) question is that, alas, there is no "sugar pill cancer cure", and the fact you thought there is tells me a lot about the kind of books and websites you read.
I have made this an exception for you, but in future be aware of this - if you phrase a question idiotically, I will not take it seriously.
Anonymous F replied with this 2 months ago, 43 minutes later, 2 weeks past creation#406
So I've presented my evidence clearly. I've refuted counter-evidence by illustrating how it's literally big pharma propaganda. When you could no longer respond you tried to then take the discussion in a stupid direction with your off-topic strawman nonsense about "oh, so I suppose you also believe in prayer and cancer cures!" That also didn't work out too well for you.
And so now you're reduced to simply posting insults from multiple accounts. I have no interest in doing that, it's not what this board is about I think. You can go to one of the chans, or Youtube comments sections, if all you want to do is write unfunny shitposts (I'll bet you're the same person who demanded the right to post pictures on here, right? Man, how you must wish you could spam this thread with stupid pictures now, eh? Now that you've shown you can't properly argue a point.)
If someone in the future posts a serious post about the efficacy of homeopathic medicine, then I will respond. But until then, my work here is done. I've made you look very, very silly and I'm happy to leave you crying out your silly little insults.
I took homeopathic medicine while I was sick with the flu. It took 15 days for me to become not ill. Conclusion, based on clear evidence: Homeopathic medicine does not work. Thanks.
Anonymous L replied with this 2 months ago, 20 minutes later, 3 weeks past creation#412
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lol
Anon F who has already proven with bogus scientific fact that a sugar pill works...He will cry foul because he cannot have his own way.
He will also be pleased to see me here again. One month showing of posts currently. Anon F must be a very unhappy person.
Still all riled up I see. I told you before and I tell you again now, I will not engage you in discussion until you calm down. Try not to let me get under your skin like this, you will find you think more clearly when you're not so upset.
Anonymous F replied with this 1 month ago, 3 weeks later, 1 month past creation#556
A week ago a colleague of mine came down with a cold (average recovery time - 1 week). I gave him homeopathic medicine and he was feeling better after 4 days.
You deniers are looking more and more stupid right now.
Topic is Homeopathy or as OP spelled it Homoeopathy.
Usually Science is the bench mark when it comes to proving anything. I think Homoeopathy, is very much like those who believe, that everything in the bible is true. You believe or you do not believe.
There is some proof that on occasion, a sugar pill works. You just have to believe.
Anonymous M replied with this 1 month ago, 36 minutes later, 1 month past creation#566
@previous > "A week ago a colleague of mine came down with a cold (average recovery time - 1 week). I gave him homeopathic medicine and he was feeling better after 4 days."
> You posted not one shred of evidence for that statement you just made. What a surprise.
True. I did not show any evidence. Nor "was one shred of evidence given", that the colleague was cured by the pill.
Anonymous F replied with this 1 month ago, 2 hours later, 1 month past creation#570
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So I destroy your 'argument' and your response is that I'm trolling? Typical tactic of the defeated.
I'm done with you. I'll engage with you again if and when you can come back with a single credible piece of evidence against homeopathy, but until then I'm just going to ignore you.
"Is there any proof that homeopathic medicine works?"
With multiple results that prove it does not. I would be happy to cite them for you. However you would simply call them not credible. That sir is trolling.
Anonymous F replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 1 month past creation#572
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And yet again you didn't post a single one of these "multiple results". It is you who are 'trolling'. I've given you many chances to present your evidence and you never do it. You're done. I've made you look like a complete idiot.